In this episode of The Wrong Agenda Podcasr rapper and Growing Up Hip Hop star Sammattick drops in to give us a truly unfiltered unrestricted and real interview like no other. Be ready to hear us talk about everything from reality T.V. to coconuts in this super in depth interview. Big shout out to Sammatic for giving us a chance to know the real him and even preview some dope music off of his upcoming project. Make sure you go check him out on instagram, listen to his music, and catch him on growing up hip hop. Original Air Date 1/11/2020

Intro

0:00you’re now listening tail you are now listening to the wrong agenda podcaster

0:05wrong again the podcast with just down boy [Music]Welcome

0:24come back to the wrong the podcast it’s your boy just Dale I’m

0:30here with my co-host og leek and we got musical sensation in the building today

0:36how about you shot yourself I’ll tell anybody who you are with your bout what’s up y’all man i’m somatic i also

0:43want to stand from growing up hip hop and soon to be son-in-law of peplum so

0:49Deborah Trish from Naughty by Nature man and Beyonce to Egypt Chris the princess

0:56out out to Egypt of course so let’s jump

1:02right on into it give me your best questions man I’m ready ready we’re gonna go too deep but

1:08we go and we go just go a little um let’s start where you from man would you grow up at so I warned Washington stateWhere did you grow up

1:15I was born in Tacoma Washington and I was raised there for you know up to my

1:20teenage years and then uh you know my family they divorced so I ended up

1:26jumping around and doing my own thing ended up in the Southside Chicago and that’s where I pretty much grew as a man

1:32I grew into a man in Chicago and that’s where you know it’s a different ballgame so yeah I was I mean I think it was like

1:39when I hit my twenties I ended up in California you know the resurfaced with my dad because my dad had moved to

1:45California imam muda Texas well sister wasn’t so I was just like left

1:50Washington so I was like ah go found out

1:57it was real life out there oh yeah yeah survived likely lucky not survived in

2:05now I’m out here in Las Vegas man Vegas way don’t let all that moving around and

2:13you know what kind of music was you into growing up oh manWhat kind of music was you into

2:19you won’t believe it I’m actually I grew up off Prince my dad is a big man I’m a

2:25big president my son’s name is Prince with Prince Andre so dig I mean more

2:34stay in a time and a lot of the real musicians Michael Jackson

2:40and it wasn’t until I started getting older like I want to say like going into you know middle of ministry school I got

2:47in the pock on the very big [ __ ] fan oh yeah my dad he’s like a DJ Quik every

2:52morning so I got a fella Romain’s and then as I got you know to about middle

2:59school years I fell into naughty by nature on pepper you know I started you

3:05know really getting into the real sound you know what I’m saying a lot of when

3:10people would say is I was an 80s baby I’m all born in the nineties but I grew up like eighties baby okay

3:17same here same in man so you ain’t alone with that wait it with you where do you

3:25feel like is your hometown like do you miss any of these places not at you in Vegas cuz that’s like you know some

3:31death I definitely are not a lot of love for Chicago man got a lotta love for ChicagoHow long have you been doing music

3:38out there it’s a different environment and a lot of people think that like

3:45don’t get me wrong Chicago’s brutal it’s very but it’s blunt and it really

3:51can mold you with you if you’re willing to understand the politics and the mindset and stuff so I got a lotta love

3:57of Chicago most definitely how long have you been doing music personally like how long have you been

4:03on your journey so growing up my dad and his brothers they actually they used to

4:09open up for troop you know in Nirvana they used to work like you know lighter

4:15shade of brown that grown up he was he was on a roll with this thing and I’m

4:21begging him he would his brother got growing up but my dad and were too stupid to realize they did he wanted to

4:28break up the band the only one in my uncle James and my dad so they were like nah man you can’t take the bed

4:35okay so growing up I grew up doing music

4:42I wrote my first song when I was in second grade was trash what would John

4:48what John Rowe was that song what was my first time rapping

4:53and okay okay it was back when all the littles were coming out ironically so

5:00today a little bow a little Romeo and I called myself you know I’m only like

5:06what seven eight years I’d call myself a little Smackdown and then I wasn’t until

5:14I think I hit middle school I was uh like seventh grade I actually picked the

5:20mic up and really started to try to take it seriously and that’s when I went from a little smack down there he’s called me

5:27beast because I was always so aggressive when I wrapped it was an aggressive person so so basically yes I’m doing

5:34this it’s all about seven years old I’ve

5:41been doing it so do you play like instrument system like that my dad was aDo you play instruments

5:46drummer growing up so I learned drums at a young age and then uh I I played music

5:52different than most like I don’t know what I’m doing I feel what I’m doing so I can pick up a guitar just depending on

5:59where we’re at what’s going on I could pick up a guitar and I can start to strumming gear and how to read music and but mostly drums was kind of my game

6:08plan and it sucks because everybody in my family was really good at [ __ ] line instruments and stuff right uh-huh

6:13but I could never play so I earned it I started with you the ultimate crap I

6:18learned how to beatbox so it’d be like do this do this and then

6:25I was like okay I don’t need to learn no instruments name I know how to just tell you so studio session

6:36what’s the bombs like in a studio with you everybody hates me would you be dumbWhats the studio like

6:45and Lu Bu be violent okay so like everybody likes get [ __ ] up in the studio and I’m down for the most part

6:53but I we heard everybody like to dim the lights and [ __ ] I have to lab the lights as bright as it could be in there that

6:59has to be like like bright you see your project man you got to see what you don’t have been in Oh

7:06lights and then I’m high intensity I’m like I have to do this Darwin Oh try

7:11this to them before I sit there like no mana you just told me the first thing to do hold on hold on mama I’m aria hurry

7:17up let’s go like I want to go for people they hate like Egypt hates being in the

7:23studio like when we’re doing a track together like a coal she hates me the studio with me because I’m quick and

7:29we’ll one take Timmy if not like three you know I’m saying like I’m Barry I know my voice I know my setup I know my

7:35equipment so I know what I’m doing Egypt on the other hand she wants to like wrap

7:41the whole verse piece by piece all right I’ll kind of go go go go go as

7:52long as definitely it’s a high intensity studio system and it’s very high intensity so I’m guessing you like to

7:58you like to write your stuff and just go and be ready or like I’m very good likeWriting

8:06as far as like my my notes I have like over a thousand like 1500 notes my phone and I write constantly so like I’m using

8:13their children I’ll start writing something in or there’s somebody’s mean

8:19that go with things and then on top of that it’s like I don’t know man it just

8:24depends the session it depends who’s in the rule like my energy in the room like if you’re a person who’s like wants to

8:30go to sleep or you want to get high and just chill I can’t be around I’m taking the [ __ ] out oh my god unless you smoke the

8:37[ __ ] that even in this bugle attire

8:44imma start you can’t are gonna see you tired it’s like it’s crazy like when we were in LA class we did meet my boys

8:50beat at a thirty two hour sessions straight one hour yeah three of our

8:57homies were producers and we went and we start at the first studio and we did an eight-hour session then we had like the

9:04hour to to get to the next studio and we did 12 hours free and we literally have producers sleeping in the other room

9:11that gotta go they’re sleepy they go sleep and then when a producer we get tired we wake the techs one [ __ ] up and

9:16they wear a rotation and we were going I lose my voice like my voice was hoarse

9:22and I’m still gone we did like six seven tracks men and we were going in like

9:28full bodies track from scratch from the beat into the vocals to the layers and

9:33the stacks like we build straight up so we go hard real hard that’s what’s up man that’s and I noticed like I’ve been

9:41doing engineering for a long time I know how those long sessions could go man from the engineer side I know what it’s

9:47like sitting there like and then if you got those guys in there who’s just stay out of it but you know just punch me

9:53just punch me I’m like come on man you can do it just do it called raw and

10:00you’ll hear in the beginning of the song I said and you’re here in the background yeah I

10:09think I heard that I heard that way yeah we don’t got out of prison and he was

10:17out days he lived in Washington I flew him in he made that beat in literally 20

10:22minutes whoa the last two years I was a

10:27guy running and right when you drop it in I was like oh yeah let’s go let’s go

10:34we went to the studio the next day and that’s the first thing you said we don’t punch him straight we straight

10:40just spit that’s how you do it youLabels

10:46currently with a label are you looking are you trying to stay in the pan there what’s going on your situation I see

10:54what the truth I mean as much as much as you talk about I was actually turned

11:03down from two labels two very very labels for being on Rona PIPA they and

11:11he said that my name had been dragged me in the mud a lot which it is because if you look at the show I’m you can see I

11:17weren’t here like that I’m not I’m not letting people see me on TV to be like you know the show is a show we’re here

11:23to entertain you guys you know yeah dragged in the mud so tough that they didn’t know if they had the time to pull

11:30me out and actually but all on video because I went initiative in the labels that I was on I was supposed to be getting signed to

11:37Atlantic Records and dreamville I was supposed to be part of the dream Bale camp and they literally like I I wore a

11:43mask in everything for the audition because I didn’t want to know it was me I wanted them to judge me just off the

11:48music and then dude was hey wait a minute I’m hoping man if the labels got

12:01that if they’re ready to really push I’m not gonna that’s a bougie but I’m a priority if you got time to a priority

12:06artist who’s going to really bring it yes I’m in the labels man let’s make

12:12some money let me make you guys let’s have fun instead of two or like you know I got my own bin you clean live music on my show

12:18yeah it’s supposed to be made like if you see this puzzle you’ll see man my DJ

12:26spins nothing but Magnum we’re we’re worth scratching records we’re really doing our [ __ ] when we happen to rumor

12:32or like we have a drum prodigy-man Tom Trump killer man he’s only 18 years old and this kid is like the next John

12:39blackwell bro he’s phenomenal killer

12:46yeah shout out to him for actually being able to do it at 18 you guys some of his

12:55covers and you’ll see he’s skids got juice definitely definitely just want toWho do you work with

13:00make sure you’re not gonna get in trouble for saying who you with labels you want to talk to ask if they want

13:08just a lot of people they they don’t believe a lot of things a lot of guys they go and they say that they’d work

13:14with these labels of these patents opportunity and I understand some people got fake it so they Nicki you know I’ve

13:20been in prison before I’ve been around people like that I’m like ah get it I understand what you’re doing here but me

13:25actually up that shows you know I’m actually being a fun to work with me and then finding out that a man here on the

13:33show ah you know I like I can’t be mad at him you know it doesn’t hurt my feeling and

13:40the day I’m honestly I feel like if there’s any label I belong to I belong to imminent label just being

13:48I mean I believe that if you really listen to my music in my art in my craft

13:53you know Eminem is a big fan of Treach you know and I’m a big fan in we all

13:59kind of cycle in there and if you listen to my delivery patterns I definitely got a lot of their you know energy on my

14:05record I could definitely see that there so one of your videos you drop recentlyWhat did you get in the casket

14:14I just want to know like what what what the hell possessed you to get in the casket man Oh chef hey James yes yes –

14:23it was crazy it was yeah I honestly I’m not gonna lie that was like the scariest

14:29thing I ever did believe it or not I’m from the block understand there’s a lot

14:37of people they look at the casket me see it as death and I didn’t want people to see what I was going through his death I

14:43want people to see me as I’m what you see the casket as the caterpillar goes to his cocoon and flourishes out to fly

14:51that is the beauty the full form so I won’t really bring out because I weren’t

14:56actually wrote and directed that with Dana rice we I wrote up the idea and he brought it to life in an amazing way

15:02video that was exactly my next question like yeah I’ll come up with these ideas

15:08or do you have somebody else that you know me so that’s my guys yo what is and

15:19they’ll be like yeah yeah do that this

15:31guy is a real entertainer he’s a real you know he’s the real deal yeah I was wondering that too about the

15:37videos watch and do your videos and I’m just like man these concepts and this I’m like it feels like used so it’s not

15:44you know it’s someone close to you I can I love these hands on with everything

15:50like you know and I appreciate that I just try to respect the art because if

15:56you if you look at it nobody can understand a video you get only people who are just going throw the song you know a director and

16:04he thinks of this dope concept and it’s like yes you’re those dopes you know it’s cool but there’s nothing that

16:09sentimental to it there’s no there’s no value like if you notice the second video I just recently dropped those

16:16videos were done in the same day we did two music videos in one day direct art

16:21and off in the church did the video chimp dreams then I week this little week we started from 12 to 8 in the

16:29morning so noon to 8:00 at night then we like went from 8 o’clock so one of the more and did another driver that’s not

16:37working for over working that’s work one

16:44thing everybody is like don’t do I do a lot everybody thinks you don’t do I

16:52could definitely understand that so who do you listen to now alright so but I’mWho do you listen to

17:08a big fan of ski mask very big fan of ski mask I like Michael cuz he’s

17:15different no there’s nobody his own visuals is on

17:20Wingo every dope Oh xxx fan as well unfortunately man may he rest in peace

17:26right or me you know I’m a big fan but if I had to say somebody that I’m

17:33constantly listening to men it would be it would be my brothers in my team you

17:38know we work a lot my brother is a Duany and he’s our money records he’s he’s the

17:46one who molded me he’s the one who created this guy taking his studio when

17:52I was younger and all his boys be around the baby the clan man yeah you know and

17:58cuz I am affiliated unfortunately can’t can’t step on Southside without being that I’m the baby of the corner so he

18:04taking his studio he be like yeah man you got three takes oh you ain’t getting on the track and now we’re watching you

18:12can’t he kept real with you I’ll take a 1520 I turned

18:25my pin into a damn weapon at that point I was like there’s no way I’m not making

18:30this track a lot and I also am working

18:40with my you know my my right-hand man he’s a nothing artist man we call him my and he’s he’s the next level dude he’s

18:48like he’s like fora with a little bit more gangster you understand he’s gonna

18:53be dope you guys got watch for him we got some dope tracks coming out he’s really he’s gonna do some great things man it’s really great things definitely

19:00definitely so I know you you talked about the whole label you know that how else would youHow Hip Hop impacted your life

19:08say growing up hip hop impacted your life [ __ ] I met a lot of people that hated me

19:15when I was younger and now they love me find out what friends would like quake

19:22it actually helped a lot rekindling with my family though you know we all live in

19:29different places I live in Vegas my sister she lived in Cali she just moved to Texas where my mom is but you know my

19:37dad he lives in Cali but we were all real dispersed out we all con do their own thing so us a lot because you know I

19:45would they would call and check on me and that’s more if I’m okay stuff like that you know it brought a lot of us closer it’s impacted a lot of

19:53negative [ __ ] I will say that a lot of people they think they know me they they think that I’m a deadbeat dad but my

20:00kids man that my kids love the [ __ ] out of me I love them I’m doing all this for my kids I swear cause nothing so when

20:08people talk it’s it’s all right you know I’ve met a lot of cool people I got a lot of love and respect for eazy-e you

20:15know D jr. that is that is one genuine [ __ ] right there man that dude’s

20:21got one of the biggest heart thing you know he really he’s taught me a lot you know

20:27they took any time oh yeah he always shows up he’s very proud of my work and

20:34I’m very honored to just be you know call the friends to the guy he’s very very amazing and then trench and Pat

20:40they’re they’re the most focused people ever like you think like you and you see people growing up you like they probably

20:48[ __ ] I mean no offense to Treach but

20:53he’s kind of you know you don’t think you just got to change like an actual

21:00basis Treach is one of the most realistic in

21:05world he’s so like this guy if you asked me like a few of us we’re not even from this damn planet cuz we really just keep

21:11it rolling do what we do like freshest [ __ ] and coached me through some of the toughest times I’ve had on growing up hip hop

21:18along with pet they bein legit are this real man they they’ll tell you what it

21:24is and anyone will hurt your feelings nothing should they just tell you what the [ __ ] it is man and you hear him

21:31talking just like yo children you know

21:44so it’s done I’ll life a lot and but a most part meant Egypt is changed my life

21:50more than anybody you know I was very rough individual when I met her you know I was drinking I was drinking

21:57to 3/5 a day straight row and I’m like – I was on for [ __ ] my little kid – the

22:03bullet that was gang banging tough I mean he was down up and down North

22:10Hollywood for $10 bro like is it pay what they owe [ __ ] call me

22:17leavin soon bro omits the money but they I mean it used to take a second a lot of money so he’s ready just ready to go

22:36that’s the line and across the lobby

22:52she tamed the Beast she Jamie Jean she taught me a lot you always meet that one

23:00that’s continuing in the right direction to keep you straight you know arts cake

23:09she’s the only person like in real life

23:32[Laughter] I’m gonna take that need to say that he

23:45was talking to me that’s what’s up man

23:54definitely love y’all together man that’s that’s dope definitely got some good I just wanted to ask you know cuzDo you let your kids watch the show

24:08the way this show kind of portrays everything do you let your kids watch you on TV you let them watch the show no

24:19we have we have to tweet you have to tweet live why we watch the show right and that’s it’s funny how did you get

24:25some people who are really entertaining to like just argue with Authority like yeah but my son I never let him watch at

24:33least I don’t let him watch with like the volume on you know I say yeah get

24:39that idea that I’m a bad guy or anything like that because he only as a hero you

24:45know I work hard or him and love them to death you know other things so I don’t

24:50like them watching the show because they know why but my son is he’s

24:56a very very unique boy he’s he’s very in tune with everything that’s going on so he he’s watching it and he still knows

25:03what’s going on you ask me questions and they’ll be like who’s that pepper right

25:10there or he’ll be like dad we should fight him I’ve ever met my son for

25:24California mask that’s where he’s promised his DNA says

25:38crazy and part of the same time me everything that I wish that could have been even at that age he’s already so

25:44much better than me that’s what’s up man that’s I’m happy with you with that man

25:51I’m glad that you doing a good father think so this whole thing cuz you know ISam is the bad guy

25:57watch the show and I’m pretty I’m caught up now I’m all the way caught up and I’m

26:02just like I don’t even know I don’t even know if this is a question but this whole Sam is the bad guy narrative it’s

26:11just crazy how it comes across but I watch and just from the edits in my perspective I’m like well what did he

26:18really do like what does he do it where the camera’s not filming hit that everyone just thinks he’s such a bad guy

26:23cuz really in what we see I don’t really see anything that was you know

26:30I’ll tell you there’s been times well like I don’t know if you watch the episode near Egypt was getting ready to

26:37go to Dallas yeah I was playing the victim point yeah okay TV wasn’t even on

26:47they’re like they’re gonna do something and look like it be productive so I

26:52rabbit controller and I’m like so they

26:59get certain edits out of me man like like breasts I could say [ __ ] you to somebody else and

27:04put it on somebody else that doesn’t have no problem yeah I could make it look like a conflict yeah

27:10they raise the carpets up they do a great job I swear I said I love what I do I also hate it but it’s Ackerson a blessing to do what I do but if you want

27:17to know what I really really do man on a daily basis or people that people don’t

27:23know is I wake up in the morning my first inning you know I’m praying I’m glad I’m well but you know what I’m

27:28saying from there I go down I mean my grooms we link up and I hit the studio

27:33we got studio in the crib and I’m like yeah let’s go sound of work you know we got got boards on the wall you know like

27:39you can see there’s one Jaime we’re

27:48supposed to be doing for the day vision board type thing yeah things we do so I

27:54go to walk out the gate from the minute I wake up to the minute I sleep and throughout the day if I’m not in a

28:00studio I’m cooking age of something making sure she eats I’m going through

28:07pulling brand ambassador moves for her to get you know three clothes get paid gig stuff like that

28:12and I’m whining you know and the hard part is people don’t want to admit that

28:18I’m as talented as I am but I actually make my music I actually make a decent penny off of what I do so a lot of

28:26people they think that I don’t work I think I’ve never worked but I’ve worked so many jobs and I almost had a big

28:33lawsuit with pen Express because my hangers they gave me had chemicals that

28:38they had me used when I was I was struggling certain stuff because these made me scrub the building on outside on some racial [ __ ] but I like that’s crazy

28:47and my hand started to disintegrate like my right hand I had no fingerprints apart from the stuff that they had using

28:54it they dissolve my shoe so I was a very hard worker when I met Egypt I had a job

29:00working and a restaurant that it ended up being closed down just due to a change of owners and stuff like that

29:07so I work I work now with music so a lot of people just think that I don’t work

29:12and I just sit at home and I live off mama pip and all them but they forgive I want a TV show

29:18just like your yeah you grindin right that’s trust me that’s a part that could

29:25started confusing me I just recently started seeing this what does Sam do stuff and I’m like I mean he’s doing a

29:32lot more than a lot of people I can see I mean I went from making you know a

29:39decent amount like you know average 11,000 12,000 a year you know regular

29:44working 9 to 5 job status you know to make it a lot more and it’s like like I

29:50pretty much like I said I’ll say this without say my mom I doubled what I made back then he’s you know what I’m saying

29:57and I do everything legal so when people are always as you question I just look almost like dude you think I do this for

30:03free you think I look this bad for free and I understand their business but you

30:11know you people can see the results of your work but they just don’t think ofIm broke

30:16it that way you know they see it as I pay for that or eg pay for that but if

30:22you want to know like if what the rugs groose about tell you bro I’m broke for one reason and I want you hear me yeah

30:29I’m broke not because I don’t have money on broke because I pay all my [ __ ] off I don’t

30:37give my own hat like my money that I make goes to pay my child support and keeping up with the payments so when you

30:44make money they make you pay more money child support every month cuz me and Egypt we live together in a very be nice

30:51beautiful house and Vegas every time I get my check know my woman makes triple that I make when we eat you get a check

30:57I give her half my check off the junk this is just baby here put it towards

31:03either the rent whatever we feel you know put it towards that and I’ll tell you man I make twenty five hundred

31:08episode half of that gone mmm right out

31:13together then that other $1,500 I got 500 boom out the gate child support and

31:20make sure that’s paid off and up to date that last I’ve got I spend about four hundred of the bed just by my girls sexy

31:26[ __ ]

31:32I’ll go and I like the shop there so I go buy my girl clothes and even my team will tell you out of all the money I get

31:39maybe $200 I spend on myself the rest of it i buy my [ __ ] clothes I buy my girl

31:45clothes I make sure all suited and booted and ready to go when we’re going out I invest there I buy out my leases

31:51from music so everything’s legal I pay for all my stuff to make it so when I

31:57say I’m broke I’m broke like I take care when I gotta take care of as a man why

32:02everybody good what I do I take care I ain’t got no money in the bank cause why I paid everything I’m supposed to pay as

32:08an adult don’t mean I’m still respect that daughter or son I’m making my own

32:16way and I’m paying my way with what I get and you know hopefully one day I make it’s coming I can respect that

32:29trust me we we’ve been on the ground we’ve been grinding especially with this podcast and you know May comes it’s hardIts hard

32:38it’s hard I’m not gonna say as easy as definitely hard in [ __ ] we work and we

32:43trying to get – we all try to get it I mean come easy ain’t workin that’s Rob

32:51Lowe there you go Riaan industry all the stupid [ __ ] I used to do I learn as fast as we made that money it’s just faster

32:57than one goes out the door you know what I’m saying now my money stretches come

33:03take care of I got a nice home I got a studio I got I got all the things that I want that’s all my dressing I work this

33:09show as long as we have to whatever whatever as long as I wake up in the morning to make music and us be good and

33:16taken care of as far as me and her take care of each other more so me doing my

33:22part I’m happy and content man I don’t gotta have millions of dollars like if you gave me a million dollars right now

33:28I’ll tell you it would be gone so fast because I just gave it a litera you

33:35ain’t mom here’s a here’s a hundred thousand hey bruh go get you a house did you call in

33:41my kids here 50/50 each like I’m that type of individual you know I said I

33:47don’t really care for the money in the only two hundred thousand I probably keep myself I invested in a bunch of

33:52[ __ ] to make a lot more money and be children you know that’s how you do it so I think I’m I’m an advocate and I tryGrowing up Hip Hop

34:00to push this whenever I can when I do talk about growing up hip hop and things like that and you’ve probably seen me I

34:07catch you on live sometime and I always push the salmon Egypt show can we get

34:12how do we get that started so we’ve been talking and there’s a few

34:19things and it works that I cannot can speak upon they’re not green-lighted yet okay I can tell you some things that

34:26we’re working on that I’ve wrote and pitch to the the network that we’re gonna get together I pitched the grown

34:32up hip hop to it I believe and we went we took everybody grew up in New York

34:39growing up hip-hop ballet going Amina and we take the heavy the people are

34:44really just doing music cuz you know Angela they don’t do music like that easy does music JoJo’s pushing his music

34:53rookies PJ and doing some histories and we got Bow Wow over there he’s trying to

34:58pull come back I’m just saying you know

35:04I’m saying o out there in New York yes he’s a good

35:11he’s a good friend of the show dance in his dog yeah I was like bro let’s go in and put us all on a tour for 30 days and

35:20Bill no [ __ ] thing yes and I think you got it all on in their ass

35:26well could you imagine do you know how many of us will find out who sinks or swims you’ll find out who’s really meant

35:32to be an artist who really comes prepared who stutters who gets [ __ ] up on the bus how many talking under

35:40somebody 30 days straight just sitting there like you know how many fights you can eat this is like make us bad the

35:46American Idol meets [ __ ] growing up hip hop all in one can you say drama

35:53amen can you say find out who was really here for the music who’s really gonna be

35:59the fan favorite who can entertain you know that sounds like yeah when I there

36:06that’s definitely a don’t do that it’s an amazing idea you know how people going hard trust man yo is a sellout

36:16it’s gonna somehow crazy that’s gonna pre sellout probably the first what week of it being announced and we do it every

36:23month the time it’ll sell out just due to the simple fact everybody has that question their parents were such are they just as

36:31great or greater yeah find out what’s

36:36their stage present like are they are they really is this really a prized bloodline is Egypt Chris really going to

36:42have star power like Treach and Penn oh yes she has a lot to live up to

36:49yeah hey that sounds like a great idea I hope that comes into fruition I hope you

36:55get Medusa credits on it or whatever you need on there yeah I’m rooting for you

37:01man I’m room for that I’m room for it to spin off oh I want to see it all have

37:08fun in Egypt spin off is very entertaining trust me we we were very we

37:15do some wild [ __ ] yeah I could believe it have you ever thought about likeActing

37:20going into like acting acting because I see in your videos and stuff you got a lot of character going on you know I

37:26have I have I’ve thought about it in this is the thing there’s a secret about

37:32Asian people really don’t know everybody thinks Egypt wants to be like her parents which don’t get me wrong Egypt wouldn’t love to perform just

37:38loves music she loves the spotlight stuff to do that but Egypt wants to be an actor first in an artist so me and

37:48her are a match made in heaven because I want to be an artist worse than an actor

37:53you know what I’m saying so it’s weird cuz she’s over here perfecting music and

37:59on the side I won’t be here doing my videos but I’m perfecting the art of the acting on it on the other hand you know

38:04doing the show it’s like I took about time if you guys don’t like me on the show I must be doing a damn good job

38:10cuz that’s not who I am so definitely in our future that’s

38:16something we want to do in Egypt also she’s just scored a role on a salt pepper movie coming out so I’m looking

38:23forward I’m looking forward to that like relief for her I didn’t even know that that was one of her passions so that’s

38:30gonna be amazing and the main actor like I seen in your videos man you got so

38:35much character you could bring out so they need guys we be paying attention we

38:43be on it we be on it I love it um givePeople dont know

38:50us something people don’t know about you like something that you’re good at

38:57something I’m good at that people don’t know actually can’t see I can act things

39:17thing like people say better than I rap which kind of offends me sometimes but

39:23either means you’re a phenomenal singer or a bad rap emotions to it because what

39:36people don’t know growing up I was in choir every year my life growing up without school why was I really wanted

39:41to be a singer but unfortunately I didn’t know that when you balls drop

39:47your blues changes well my boys changed I gave up on singing cuz I was like in I

39:54don’t sound nothing like you and I didn’t understand that if I trained my voice I could still do what I do right I

40:00started rapping and then once I ended up in a studio where I was allowed to you know just be creative I started

40:06retraining my voice again and start a singing so if people decide Johanna singer stop doing the rapping just sing

40:13and I’m like yeah like Rapids me down yeah

40:19see yuh give us one thing on your bucketBucket list

40:25list my bucket lists things to do before I die

40:31my bucket list is weird and different than most but simple what I want to do

40:39before I leave this world is I personally just want to make as many

40:44people in the world or like me know that they’re not alone that’s it’s simple it’s a big one but a smaller intentions

40:52I want people to know that it’s okay not to be okay and it’s okay that’s a big one man yeah

40:58I want people to know that it’s it’s truly okay to take the time to find

41:04yourself and realize that you know we grow up as kids and we dream big we

41:09dream so [ __ ] big in mm-hmm 90% of us who dream big and have these dreams they don’t like 10% of us

41:16actually continue the dream we never become what we ever really wanted to become yeah that’s the best effect

41:22that’s yeah I want to change I want to help people understand that God didn’t

41:27put us here to work a 9 to 5 you know I’m saying God put us here it’s live

41:33paradise and gave us the ability to choose give us to get the toys on to do

41:39what we want and I think where we mess up in the world is bad we think cuz people got something to say about us we

41:45can’t chase them the are we’ll never get there and that’s wrong I mean I’m an anomaly in the hip-hop industry man I

41:51was never supposed to happen if you really want me to be honest you know young boy meets rich girl there’s

41:58nothing moving man yeah yeah so happens that he’s actually good and has the passion for that like it’s a movie but

42:05it happened because I stayed consistent in what I wanted to do and I didn’t let everybody talk about me and say what

42:12they say stop me from loving what I love and saying I I still to this day man I’ve said every year I’m gonna be

42:18getting a ward at the BTS next year next year I’m gonna do this next year I’m gonna do that I remember saying as a kid like two

42:24years before I met Egypt I watched Billboard 1 December be there one day one day i’ma be there and you gonna see

42:29me on the screen everything what do you know last year I was Billboard Awards I was on screen

42:36you know that’s all I want I just want to help people have my bucket list for people to realize y’all just do you [ __ ]

42:45people do you would chase your dream more and you only got one life you might as well live it like you live twice and

42:50do what you want domine i’ma be honest with you man when

42:56I first seen you show up on the show and they said that she did music and stuff I

43:02was like what music is he do it and I was like I I want to hear what this guy sounds like and I’m being completely

43:09honest with you know no offense nothing I don’t know I was just like bro I don’t

43:14know if he’s gonna have anything good to say or if this is gonna be complete trash and then they played that first

43:21song you guys did in the studio and they played Egypt’s part through and I was like okay yeah he’s just killing it I

43:26was like what’s he gonna do and then you started rapping and I was like oh [ __ ] this disc I could really write like for

43:33real I was like nah this is serious this is not no TV stuff this guy can really and that’s what I want to go check out

43:39your music and also there because if you if you really pay attention like certain

43:46shows they’ll do that and the person be trash as [ __ ] so yeah everybody

43:53everybody call people love god yeah cross over for the longest because I

44:00feel like a lot of the people are in New York is there their trash I think that

44:05they’re not good rappers I think that they’re they fold with the trend and they say nothing personal but me as a

44:12musician lover and loved in the art of it I look at these young cats and I’m like yeah I mean I can see it hang a lotYoung artists

44:24I can see it plea weak whose father call

44:31right now you know he’s real good people back yeah pretty cool sleek cool like flea has a lot more in him if he doesn’t

44:39adjust to the new way the new age music like the new agent yeah that’s what I was about to say no I’m

44:46saying he has so much more potential you don’t got a dumb it down using Jerusalem

44:51Viet I got the problem robot is music to me it don’t speak to me I kind of I mean

45:02I do feel his music on a level like I think his music is to me I like it yeah

45:08music is that’s the best thing about music music everybody and you’ll find someone whose teenage them you know like

45:15I just look in his music and I say it sounds like something that’s already been done just you know sounds like

45:22somebody’s never done already done that style and on top of that is their longevity is that style gonna be able to

45:29last longer timeless music opposed to just here and now music swapped pepper

45:36Naughty by Nature that is timeless music right there still selling out more units

45:44more downloads more streams then the people we hear today with music they made 35 years ago true that’s true

45:52timeless music same thing paw prints all these individuals a station forget about

45:59it yeah forget about it is timeless music and that’s all I say about these guys in New York like are you really in

46:06love with music because people were in love with me is make timeless music they didn’t bury like music that is very just

46:12like yo I don’t give a [ __ ] what time it is I don’t care where I’m at [ __ ] with you

46:20if we’re coming in at 75 and ain’t none against up he comes on imma be like I

46:31just would love to cross over and children like yeah well I think your

46:38tour idea sounds great yeah you could all match up maybe I am a native New Yorker so maybe

46:44I have a solo mob but maybe that’s why I could feel his music on a certain level I don’t know the lingo and everything

46:52that’s why I’m sick they got it they found an illegal buddy

46:57natalie is definitely I guess is the

47:02different errors yes and that’s another thing it’s it’s new like you said it is a new everything more so definitely I

47:10agree with you on that 100% it’s definitely a different ballgame like a lot of people like when they hear it

47:17might hurt champagne dreams they didn’t fix a very very very detailed listener

47:24to understand and know what I like know where that sound came from you know what

47:29I’m saying like notice the beats of champagne dreams did you recognize it at

47:34all no yeah it’s my right hand there

47:44right yeah somewhat let me think let me

47:51think of the song go ahead and give me one second don’t quiz me I heard it just now didn’t you only

48:01because you said to do

48:06yes well let us to my unborn child that it I wouldn’t notice it until you said

48:12two part and I started thinking about to Fox songs but originally I did not notice that and if you peep that if you

48:18really peep the depth of the vocals in there you’ll catch that it was like am I

48:24the next Robin Williams I don’t know mate the pressure seems to grow and all the fancy people hate me it was on the term in the delivery

48:30pattern of hawks Fox yeah I have his cadence I noticed that what the original

48:37copy was done written in Eminem’s voice am i the next Robin Williams I don’t

48:43know maybe the pressure seems to go a long offense and people hate me [ __ ] to your stuff gets more drops on the daily

48:48it was Rick it was written in that flow cadence so I can respect the artistry to

48:56it I don’t know my biggest fan base yeah

49:05get the real you you want the real rappers I like thanks

49:11son Nick’s got bars yo really yes Medina from grown-up people of New

49:16York you guys see here he’s coming on this season it’s the second season I talk too loudly you need to [ __ ] go

49:23and get on it Danny got bars he was just you just dis way in the morning man yeah

49:28yeah I’m gonna check them out I gotta check them out I didn’t know that in my

49:37notes notes you put me on to someone new right now

49:44so what can we expect from you in 2020 man all right so that’s fine I got anWhat to expect in 2020

49:51[ __ ] move I’m throwing at the industry it’s gonna be dope I talked

49:56about of you excited cuz people people all see this and they’re gonna be like they’re gonna be waiting to hear about

50:02it cuz I ended up and you guys will see this season that I uh I actually was

50:11sitting down with p1 Music Entertainment which is e ones the one who does grown-up hip-hop but they also have a

50:18label and there’s a lot of no signs of this label right so I sat down with them

50:23I think they do they still won’t death rolls catalogue I think they are all

50:32onto this label so I sat down with the head A&R over there and you’ll see on

50:37the show he listens to my music he tells me that my music is it doesn’t none of

50:45it sounds the same so he basically asked me to go back to the drawing board he

50:51said he’s not saying no to signing me but he’s not saying yes so he wants to hear something so he asked three four

50:57five songs in a certain air like way you know so what I’m dropping this year is

51:02an album it’s called mainstream every track on the album is mainstream one

51:09mainstream to mainstream three mainstream boom all of them are getting

51:14to mainstream as a big [ __ ] you to make it clear I could do all the music they

51:20can do and when I say these songs are out of this old dobro like I’m in the studio right

51:29now like I can give you a snippet if you’re interested definitely one of the songs

51:38that I played around okay so if you’re listening to mainstream music what what

51:45mate what do you think mainstream music what kind of song do you think like what’s the first thing that pops in your head

51:50um trap music is really big right now uh-huh like which artist uh who’s killing any

51:58right now leak I mean I’m be honest I’m I do own music

52:03so I don’t really listen to the trap to munching um I mean it’s out there if you

52:09listen to the radio you’re gonna hear trap music you gotta hear this definitely but um I mean the baby’s been

52:17buzzing the baby’s been buzzing around yeah rich has been buzzing around

52:26so here I’ll give you a piece of what is gonna probably piss the baby off cuz I’m

52:31gonna give him a run for his money on with just this this is the first track off the tape I’ll show you guys this is

52:36a mainstream one as we called it cue it

52:42up we got the exclusive here the exclusive me cuz this track right here like I’m

52:47almost almost I wasn’t sure when people hear it they’re gonna be like okay that

52:53was hard [ __ ] this thing but that was hard bring that you know I like I did a

53:03snippet on Instagram like where I was like on my life and it was literally

53:08like I was gonna it’s like 15 minutes and I showed probably like the first 15 seconds in a song and people were just

53:15like yo that one right there that’s weird I’ll it did I was like you

53:22guys really like this lame [ __ ] this is lame to me so so this album is basically

53:29showing everyone that you can do all of that mainstream [ __ ] that you can

53:35basically go through what everybody’s doing but do you choose to do your path because

53:40that’s what you like and I choose not to just conform to the wave man cuz there’s

53:47like there’s so many people in this industry and they all say on the [ __ ] same man like ain’t y’all tired of it is

53:54not like you paying I agree I agree 100% this don’t mix with that just this is

54:00like it’s gonna be a big moment in music right now I’m really wait like you said I’m excited about this project already

54:07it’s gonna be good dear much it’s loading sorry I was in the middle of session so I had to pull up it’s alright

54:13that but just the concept of it so you’re just gonna go through all the

54:19sub-genre basically every style is gonna get something from me like I’m sitting

54:25here right now working on a track that I wanted to I mean my god we were talking

54:31about know let’s go international for a little bit alright we’re gonna do we met this guy he’s from the Dominican

54:37Republic dudes amazing is pretty big out there ankle saintil names because I want y’all to be surprised when it happens

54:43but we were like yo let’s do something that’s like you know internationalist [ __ ] man like some cardian them are

54:49doing so loads up i’ll show you what i’m editing right now this is this is called

54:55get out of my face [Music]

55:19[Music]

55:29[Music]

56:15[Music]

57:51no patient patient he got some heat so

58:02yeah you could all right you could do it I’m looking forward to this I’m looking forward to

58:08this you see but you know at the same time this is this is what we need this

58:13is what we need keep everybody on their toes keep everybody on their toes and whatever it is that you do you got to be

58:19the best at it because if somebody could come in here Territorian and knock it out the park then you got up step it up

58:25exactly and that’s the thing I just try to tell people man night for me I know

58:31nobody can come do me better because nobody sounds like me nobody does what I do nobody raps I rap nobody talks I talk

58:38you know what I’m saying so when I hear all these other people styling I’m like yeah you guys are making money you guys

58:43are doing good that’s cool that’s [ __ ] awesome man good Julian your own

58:48lane yeah well I can get over there and do exactly what you did you don’t have

58:54said I don’t understand that to me that’s wise things it’s too watered down if anybody can do it right yeah and if

59:02anybody can do it it’s not that it’s not special or not dope it’s just like

59:07anybody can do this bro and I just don’t want I don’t want anybody to think that like I play around in so many different

59:15genres of rap man like I’ll show y’all one last track this one got I’ll just show you this new hook here

59:21I grew up off of real spitting you know I’m saying we spit one from we speak

59:27like you knew like New Yorkers you got spit

59:33[Music]

1:00:55now I see why you want that tour like

1:01:10energy track yeah I already know how you are cuz see yes each president is gonna

1:01:16be crazy that performers gonna be that’s why it’s hope you may not do this [ __ ]

1:01:22for free just get along listen up to the show man get the real

1:01:30you know we’ll meet my team doing stage I’m in Atlanta man whenever you come to

1:01:37Atlanta I’m pulling up Brown bleep I mean actually we have some people begging us

1:01:45to come out we just been like what do we gonna do we don’t know the sticks out there yeah

1:01:51you know I’m saying yeah I’m out in Florida now from New York but I’m out in Florida I’ve been here for a few years

1:01:57now man I’m over here near Orlando bro

1:02:03I was there for two weeks it’s got back at Ava hey if you ever come back around

1:02:14this way just let me know whether you from Miami to Jacksonville I’m I’m up and down those eight all the time oh

1:02:21[ __ ] [ __ ] I’m pulling up to mana for

1:02:28just this might be jolt from Atlanta jolt from Orlando Miami and we were literally just like yo we’d be like five

1:02:34days there’s nothing to do what he

1:02:41wasn’t like he wasn’t linked up with the right people I do do another family they do music

1:02:47she’s chilling on the holidays well listen next time you come this way I get

1:02:55you in a studio don’t worry about Orlando as long as I might be out in

1:03:03Vegas next month my birthday’s in February oh wow that’s the same I’m

1:03:14gonna be out there I’ll make sure y’all on the list come definitely I appreciate

1:03:22that man for real you we I want so far off script I said 30 minutes but we’ve

1:03:27been vibing so crazy I’m a fun person

1:03:32just even talk and interview and anything cuz like I’m I’m more open than people think like that’s well anything

1:03:38that’s so crazy like I said earlier on my love is like you asked me because you DM you like I check my dance all day long I answer everybody’s Oh ain’t doing

1:03:45no weird [ __ ] alright alright person back I answer quick you can ask me [ __ ]

1:03:51what did you do when you were 14 I’ll be like [ __ ] [ __ ] with you man I

1:04:02appreciate y’all like bring the honest up is like a lot of people they’re too nervous to talk to me man they really think that I’m just some off

1:04:09cookie you know I’m really like I’m the most down-to-earth like I said I ain’t

1:04:15from this world from it anytime you want to come back you want to get some of

1:04:20your tests whatever we hear any tonight

1:04:26loves interviews oh yeah we’re definitely I wrong man we definitely

1:04:31know they’re not an attitude gave us the secrets we get we know what to ask

1:04:38well yeah these questions oh yeah for the for the end I like to just do a

1:04:43little thing where I run off a bunch of questions you just tell me basically like your favorites we actually a bunch

1:04:48of things like that it’s real quick real quick one two three answers and that’s

1:04:53basically it so we’ll start with that and do you like any sports what’s your

1:04:58favorite sport if you have any I was a second estate boxer growing up I’m a fighter like wow I actually I would have

1:05:06win I would have win pro man if I never would think that probably smoking cigarettes all right so who you like in

1:05:15boxing right now who you like my favorite fighter and this is a guy man I hope he gets to see this man I’m very

1:05:21big fan of Ryan Garcia man he’s like an amazing brain Ryan you’ve got the right

1:05:27attitude everything man you know I’m really if you ever need somebody to open up for Mike that would be dope that

1:05:35would be dope a lot my big boxing fan to Airlines what airlines that you would

1:05:41wish your pick of Airlines in my first class first class second class is hop

1:05:53you know I did see where room I’m a very big on American Airlines me they’re kind

1:05:58of dope maybe Canada maybe giving you like the nice you know two hundred milliliter bottles name a place you

1:06:07haven’t been that you wanna visit I have not been to I have not been to South

1:06:16America like Cuba and [ __ ] like that and I would really like like Brazil I would love to

1:06:21be out there it was I think out there like I’m a big fan of food so I like to like go places with tropical spicy food

1:06:29and just live and enjoy so Brazilian is definitely on my list all right that’s

1:06:34what’s up so you said the food was your favorite food my favorite food [ __ ]

1:06:41as far as something I could eat every day yep I think alive man I could smash

1:06:48up a beard you make a beef patty every day but I swear I would destroy coconuts

1:06:58oh really yes I would drink it scoop out the guts

1:07:04dried out chew on it I love [ __ ] coconuts and beef patties that’s

1:07:10different that’s the first one I ever heard for coconuts I think I’m most popular answer so far has been like hot

1:07:17wings or something like that these are good man but coconuts like coconuts

1:07:24I’ll probably get some now I’m being violent sound pretty good

1:07:29all right lead you want to finish it off which one you got over there favorite TV

1:07:35show chants a growing up hip hop I would never

1:07:42I’m a very I’m very into the flashing you you I love DC everybody you’ll see

1:07:52I’m I’m the Joker that’s my mentality that’s who I am so I dress up when I perform so the

1:07:59flashing and you is pretty [ __ ] and I’m gonna just seen the TV show you on he watches you i watch the flash so but

1:08:06together we got both of them you know the same guy makes it oh really

1:08:11- same guy bro Blake Neely or whatever you the one who does these same people

1:08:16Oh like that’s what I found out I was like oh yeah I watch like six episode

1:08:29watch this episode last night season two is out it now isn’t – yeah yeah so I’m

1:08:37like bathroom on there too so it’s hella dough wouldn’t what did you think about the Joker movie since we got we got to

1:08:43that that was a disgrace really didn’t like it bruh I loved it to be an impulsive

1:08:54crybaby with the Laughing disorder there wasn’t they make Bruce Wayne’s older

1:09:00brother yet out weird what’s different but I liked it as a

1:09:06tone down you know movie was it it’s not a superhero movie we know that it’s a

1:09:13psychological movie I would have took and you know you talk to the person who is understand like you know mental

1:09:20health and stuff like that if you really want me to be honest I like the Jared little [ __ ] Joker better than this

1:09:25one really I like Suicide Squad Joker bad as a nation you can’t let hope though definitely a

1:09:33joke I could get with that I could get behind that if I mean I it’s just I

1:09:39didn’t like I didn’t like how they made him like dancing and then the makeup that he was wearing didn’t match anything that I grew up waffle of oh no

1:09:47it was definitely different it was definitely different but I do it do me

1:09:54off a little bit but I mean I still like I enjoyed the difference of it you know

1:10:00it was a not a Batman centric thing so you know for me being like and living

1:10:07every day and people knowing me as the Joker like even our cat cause my people they protect me is the job for me it was

1:10:13like looking at somebody trying to be me in the most corneas way I I could definitely see that if you check out

1:10:19some of your videos it’s kind of scary your resemblance to the Joker some of those things truly

1:10:30alright man like wow this is going on a record right now we have 111 so we’re

1:10:37gonna want it down here man I just want to say like thank you and

1:10:42this is [ __ ] dope honest dope interview

1:10:48you gave it to us how you feel for real no holding back I appreciate that man

1:10:53like one of the reasons I’ve reached out and I wanted to get you on cuz I’m like this guy seems like a real dude who just

1:10:59doesn’t it you don’t get to see I could see me how the show holds it back you

1:11:04know and I’m like I notice a real dude on the day was just what I could recognize it so I was like I really

1:11:09wanted to get to talking yeah man Pharrell this interview was dope Thank You Man I appreciate because

1:11:17I honestly it’s it’s hard to get people who are willing to talk and really find out and see who’s behind everything I

1:11:24guess most people say it’s hard to find out what’s behind a lot of facing yeah well we always here for you like I said

1:11:31man we got a family in us so you can always come back and chop it up and

1:11:38definitely we gonna link we don’t link I’m a big fan of listening music see me

1:11:45stuff come down yeah shout out your YouTube shout out your Instagram shout out everything you need to shout out so

1:11:52people could get to you follow me at somatic just Google somatic si mmm atti

1:11:58CK and everything will pop up I promise even the match so um yeah this has been

1:12:06the wrong agenda podcast with Sam Matic woo I hope y’all enjoyed it this is a

1:12:14good one I hope you I got do the whole day I know y’all dig cuz it was worth it so yeah

1:12:20and this is a signing off to you by valiant world media group

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